Riva 510 or Riva 901 - Which to buy?

[Vintage Raven]

I've been using the DSE901 for about 6 months now, and now I'm considering getting a Riva, mostly because of the extended battery life, but also because the look of the device really appeals to me.

So now I'm not sure whether to get the 510 or the 901. What are the main differences between the two?

[Tyke]

I believe that they're fundamentally identical apart from the atomiser connector.

The 510 Riva takes 510 atomisers
The 901 Riva takes 901 atomisers

If you've already got 901 atomisers and carts, then a Riva will basically be a dramatic battery upgrade which I'd expect you to be pleased with.

[Buggles]

Hi Vintage Raven.

I'm not an owner of both models, but as far as I can see the only difference is the threading and the Atty type.

Normally the 901 atty is good for flavour and throat hit whereas the 510 atty is best for vapour production.

In the LR versions of the attys both are designed to give better vapour (simulating 6V, but I personally find it closer to 5V). Using a  LR Atty does reduce the flavour somewhat.

I would recommend the Riva as it has great battery life and looks.

As to which you should get that depends on what stock you already have, ie if you have loads of spare 901 attys then you are probably better going for the 901 Riva. But if your stock of 901 bits is low and you want more vapour and would be happy with less flavour then go for the 510 Riva( but this could be matched by the LR901 atty with some loss of flavour).

Basically if you are happy with the 901s performance stick to it.

[Rusty]

Look at Scott's (igetcha)review of the 901 Riva on here.  The cone is not as long so the overall shape is slightly different to the 510.

[Vintage Raven]

Thanks for the replies. It seems I will have to go with the 901, since those are the atty's I already have, and many of them are still in good working order.

It's too bad about the overall look of the 901 Riva as opposed to the 510 as I do prefer the longer cone look. I wonder why they made it different? I assume you can't just buy a 510 cone and put over a 901 atty, right?

[Tyke]

Thanks for the replies. It seems I will have to go with the 901, since those are the atty's I already have, and many of them are still in good working order.

It's too bad about the overall look of the 901 Riva as opposed to the 510 as I do prefer the longer cone look. I wonder why they made it different? I assume you can't just buy a 510 cone and put over a 901 atty, right?

I've not got a 901 Riva to try, but I'm fairly sure I saw a post from Scott (Igetcha) where he said he'd tried one and the 510 cone fitted and worked fine. The 510 cones are sold seperately too.

[xjohnuk]

As others say, sure it is the SAME cone for 510 and 901... saves manufacturing 2 lots of cones!  The 901 atty is longer so sticks up more from cone (where top of a 510 is flush).  I need an adaptor to use a 901 atty on me 510 tornego, so adds even more length, but vapes fine!  Main thing... and not too fugly either...

[Tyke]

As others say, sure it is the SAME cone for 510 and 901... saves manufacturing 2 lots of cones!  The 901 atty is longer so sticks up more from cone (where top of a 510 is flush).  I need an adaptor to use a 901 atty on me 510 tornego, so adds even more length, but vapes fine!  Main thing... and not too fugly either...

Scott posted that the cone that came with the 901 kit is in fact 10mm shorter than the one with the 510.

I don't understand why they'd bother to make different ones either, but apparently they do.

[xjohnuk]

Scott posted that the cone that came with the 901 kit is in fact 10mm shorter than the one with the 510.
I don't understand why they'd bother to make different ones either, but apparently they do.

You mean 10mm LONGER than a 510, Tyke?  As a 901 atty is longer... ?  Now you're deliberately trying to confuse me!  :lol:

[StevieD]

xjohnuk, nope, he means shorter... look at Scotts vid review, it looks a bit wierd, but not bad.

[LibertyFlights-Abe]

The current 901 Riva cone is shorter, it makes the draw really tight. The thread size of the 510 and 901 are the same though so you can use the different cones on each device. They will be making a new cone that I will be able to buy in a few days, here is what the manufacturer has said about the 901 version :

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Hi Abe,
Yes, Riva 901 Cone is shorter than Riva 510，which couldn't cover the whole atomizer.

We found it rather too tight. We're making new 901 Riva which is longer and looser , alomost like 510 Cone .
 
You could get them next week.

[swanvesta]

Thanks for the replies. It seems I will have to go with the 901, since those are the atty's I already have, and many of them are still in good working order.

It's too bad about the overall look of the 901 Riva as opposed to the 510 as I do prefer the longer cone look. I wonder why they made it different? I assume you can't just buy a 510 cone and put over a 901 atty, right?

I can confirm this is what I do, as I already had 2 510 cones I now use them on my 901 Riva

The 901 atty does protrude slightly above the cone which I actually prefer as I can direct draw on the atty when I need to without unscrewing the cone

901 Riva with a 901LR atty is the best device I have used to date and Ive tried a lot over the last 18 months!!

The LR901 atty is worth every penny more so please order LR when replacing your 901 attys

~Swan~

[Vintage Raven]

The current 901 Riva cone is shorter, it makes the draw really tight. The thread size of the 510 and 901 are the same though so you can use the different cones on each device. They will be making a new cone that I will be able to buy in a few days, here is what the manufacturer has said about the 901 version :

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Hi Abe,
Yes, Riva 901 Cone is shorter than Riva 510，which couldn't cover the whole atomizer.

We found it rather too tight. We're making new 901 Riva which is longer and looser , alomost like 510 Cone .
 
You could get them next week.

That sounds great :oD will the longer cone be in the Riva 901 bundle, or should I buy it separately?

[Jaded]

Why wait? Why not buy the battery and the fast USB charger for £17 now and wait for the new cones to come in - it could be days but it might be weeks You already have a 901 atty and it will work perfectly well without a cone...

[Jackie]

Or buy a 510 cone until the 901 cones are in stock.

I'll be getting a 901 Riva at some point, I quite like the LR 901 atties for a change of pace. 

[Doc X]

just ordereed the 510 riva and lr 510 attys, any one tryed them as in comparicion to the 901 lr attys, how do they perform? i got the 510 and have a transformer bit in case i find the 510 lr-attys to mutch but m not sure on the extra inch length due to the adapter piece(probably will add 2 510lr's to the trade section to swapp for 910lr's just to see whats all the hype about.

[swanvesta]

I have tried both and I much prefer the 901LR atty

Equal vapour & throat hit but a MUCH IMPROVED flavour

I also appear to be able to take a shorter inhale to produce required results

Bit too early to be sure on this point but initial impressions indicate the 901LR atty has a longer life span but even if that turns out not to be the case Im converted anyhow!

~Swan~

[scaryclairy]

LR901 every time

[Wayne]

901lr for me too, Got the riva 510 and 901, think the 510 will end up in the trades section(and the 510 cone is perfect for the 901)

[psychelatte]

Hi, it's me...confused as usual!
I have a device I think identical to the Riva, it's called an Eros, from Mirage cigarettes.
It uses a 510 battery/atomiser and I find that the flavour and throat hit is almost non existant, whilst the vapour is pretty good.

I would really like to try it with a 901 atty, but do I buy a normal atty or a Riva/Eros atty (plus adaptor)??
I am, still desperately seeking satisfaction....

[StevieD]

Psychelatte, you just need a 901 atty and a 510-901 adapter. But if you're not getting enough Throat Hit from the 510, you will get less with the 901, although the flavour is (in general) better. You might be better off getting a LR901(with 510-901 adapter) or trying a LR510 atty.

[psychelatte]

Thanks, Stevie...or I could try higher nic than my usual 24mg for throat hit..LF don't go that high, unfortunately...